Showing posts with label catholic. Show all posts
Showing posts with label catholic. Show all posts

Friday, 21 November 2014

GET THE HATE OUT OF A FEDERAL IRELAND






For those who wish to be in the solution, rather than in the eternal problem, we don't have to be particularly bright, to realize that the solution, is to get the sectarian hate out, and create an inclusive, Federal, Ireland. The UK taxpayers, by subsidizing their sectarian, Orange State, to the tune of 10 billion pounds sterling annually, are part of the problem, by enabling it. Please, stop enabling hate, prejudice and bigotry. When you stop subsiding them, bigots in that failed state, will start to get real, have a little humility and move into the solution. Enough of the politicians hot air. LET'S KEEP IT SIMPLE & DO IT NOW!

As someone, who regards myself as neither Protestant or Catholic and who has the utmost respect for the Protestant tradition, I realized many years ago, that one of the critical, progressive ethics of their form of Spirituality, is that they preach the ethic of taking responsibility and being self supporting, in many countries they do. Credit must go to my Protestant fellow Irishmen who first brought the progressive ethics of Republicanism from France to Ireland. It is time for you gentlemen and ladies to walk your talk, instead of prancing with supremacist pride, down the streets of the plain people of Ireland, preaching bigotry, prejudice and privilege and banging out your egoism, with your bloated, bullying, Lambeg drums. At end of the day, my reality test, comes from your God fearing New Testament, which clearly states, "by their fruits you will know them."Incidentally my best friends are Protestants.

Obviously, I cannot do all of this on my own, aside from my Higher Power, I need the help of enlightened people, who actually care. Please work the hash tag #OOsashesOff  in a creative intelligent way, to carry this simple message, particularly to the ordinary decent taxpayers, of the UK, who are being hoodwinked by politicians for centuries. Please share on Facebook and Twitter to begin with. For further details, please google the hashtags below. We can do it! 

#OOsashesOff 

#OpKKK

#HoodsOff


Anonymous knocks hate sites offline as KKK ‘hoods off’ campaign continues


Hackers operating under the banner of Anonymous released another cache of information on people the group says are affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist organizations.
Twitter accounts associated with the collective posted links on Tuesday morning to a document posted to PrivatePaste.com, a confidential pastebin. A pastebin is an Internet platform where users can store and display text, code configurations or other information.
In the PrivatePaste document are addresses, phone numbers, occupations and other information about Klan and white supremacist websites and the people who run and maintain them, as well as personal information about Klan members from Texas, California, Arkansas and other locations.
Anonymous poster @SouthFlCopBlock put up a link to a letter from the collective explaining to the white supremacists why Anonymous has aggressively targeted them as part of a campaign known as #OpKKK and #HoodsOff.
“Having fun riding the waves of losing twitter accounts, ddos attacks, and being caught with your zipper down?” asked the letter, which contained the names and contact information of more than a hundred alleged white supremacists.
The Anonymous campaign began when Klan chapters announced that they would be targeting protesters with “lethal force” in and around Ferguson, Missouri should riots follow a grand jury’s decision about Officer Darren Wilson. Wilson shot and killed unarmed teen Michael Brown in Ferguson last August.
Anonymous responded by “doxxing” dozens of Klan members, i.e., posting their personal information and photos on line, hence the hashtag “#HoodsOff.” Then the hacker organization seized control of the Klan’s various Twitter accounts, posting images of a lynched Klansman and taunting the original owners of the accounts.
On Tuesday, the campaign continued, with Anonymous moving beyond the Klan to target racist websites like Stormfront.org and writing, “The aim of our operation is nothing more than Cyber Warfare. Anything you upload will be taken down, anything you use to promote the KKK will be shut down. DDoS attacks have already been sent and have infiltrated your servers over the past 2 days — d0x’s have also been launched on leaders of the KKK. All information retrieved will be given to the public.”
DDoS (distributed denial-of-service) attacks are an illegal tool used by hackers to shut down a website by flooding it with so many dummy requests that the server overloads and goes offline. Anonymous is claiming to have knocked multiple Klan websites offline in several states including North Carolina, Utah and Texas, as well as a website for white supremacist group the Traditional American Knights.

Friday, 7 November 2014

EVOLUTION OF SYSTEMIC CHILD ABUSE



"Beneath this thin veneer of civility lurks a savage. You scratch my skin and draw blood, I will inevitably retaliate." Quote - Christy Higgins


Since I was forced as a young boy, to pour water over, what appeared to my child's eyes as my mother's dead body, lying on a concrete floor, in the west of Ireland, I internalized my anger to the point of where it became frozen rage. After I discovered the extent of the problem, both personally and in Irish society, after I put down the drink and went to associate recovery groups in the Jellinek Clinic in the Netherlands, I started to slowly, deal with my many anger issues in my relationships with other people. I learned that I was as sick as my secrets and in order to recover, my internalized rage needed fresh air or as some would say the Sunlight of the Spirit. It still does and perhaps this has something to do with motivation for this blog.


Anyway, after I returned to Ireland, many years before the child abuse issue, went mainstream, I re-acquainted myself with my bad ass friend Christy, and had to share with him, what I was learning and that it appeared to me, to be an endemic problem in Ireland, that bothered me greatly. Now both for Christy's sake and my own, I have to be fair and mention, that in our own cases, it did not extend to any sexual abuse. In fact one of the reasons I was attracted to Christy's guidance, is that I witnessed a very happy home. Anyway I shared with Christy my disturbed feelings, about the extent of it and how uncomfortable it made me feel, in that I was picking up this rage vibe everywhere I went from people around me in Ireland.


Christy as usual, explained to me in his usual down to earth way, the realities of what he saw around him. If you ever visit the very beautiful Achill Island in County Mayo, off the west coast of Ireland, you will find rows and rows of old stone houses, falling into disrepair, overlooking the Atlantic Ocean, some of which, date back to pre-holocaust days in Ireland and before the mass exodus that emptied our land. There is considerable debate about the extent of this matter, with many realistic claims, that the numbers of Irish lives lost, being on an even greater scale than the Jewish holocaust.


You will also notice if you visit, how tiny most of these homes are and if you are familiar with the history of obstructed birth control in Ireland, you will learn, that quite regularly, an Irish family often extended up to 20 persons. Christy simply asked me, what I thought frequently happened, with whole families sleeping up on top of each other, in such small one roomed abodes, particularly if you factor in, the regular Irish diet of the time, that included vast quantities of poitin, otherwise known as the untaxed, "peoples whisky"or what the old Celtic Irish monks called "uisce beatha," meaning when translated, 'water of life', which is currently at a premium in Ireland, thanks to what Gerry Adams refers to as, our great and glorious leader from Mayo, "Sliabheen" or Mountain man. Yes, we may have a beautiful land, but few visitors, are aware of the cruelty that lies just under surface of its veneer or real history and even fewer still, of the native Irish, talk about it, under pain of death or at a minimum, forced emigration. 'Don't let the side down' is Ireland's greatest enabler of Child Rape.




My father, as a teenage boy, broke rocks with a lump hammer, from the dawn of day until sunset, to help put bacon on the table of the large family he came from. He was paid something paltry by the horse and cart load. He battered rocks, until his own heart became as hard as the rocks themselves. He joined the fascist blueshirts, which were Ireland's equivalent of Hitler and Mussolini, from other Roman Catholic cultures in Europe. It killed any bit of nature that was in the man. My mother's family on the other hand, took wounded Irish rebels across the river Shannon in Meelick, to try to recover. She was a strong minded woman, the equal of any man, in any rural field of Ireland, at that time. She was not of a submissive nature. Hence the war zone within the four walls of my childhood home. 




She was of a time before women's liberation, that after sufficient batterings and with males being the sole adjudicators of power in the Ireland of that time, i.e. the local sergeant, the local doctor, in fact all of the local bureaucracy,with the exception of the midwife, she was eventually locked up with nervous breakdowns, treated with crude electric shock treatment, incorrectly medicated, to the point, that a lot of the local patriarchal society, deemed her mad, as many today would term myself her son, for having the audacity to write  publicly about all of this. She recovered some of her sanity eventually, paradoxically through religion, I prefer a more pagan form of Spirituality myself.

Now at this point I have to be very careful and sparing with my words, in order to to be fair to other people. I too, like my father had to emigrate to the great metropolis of London, for several complex reasons, such as the material, escape from such an emotionally incestious culture, along with my developing alcoholism. I had spent most of my childhood, doing a man's work on the farm, which some would term as being a muck savage, working a spade for a lot of it. After working in London, digging holes under the supervision of other Irish muck savage, 'ganger men,' I eventually found a job under an English one, who was a decent enough man. Unlike my previous supervisors, when it rained, he called us in out of the rain and treated us fairly. However we almost came to blows one day, when he told me, that I didn't know how to work a spade properly. I had worked with one all of my childhood life,"How phuking dare he say such a thing!"


However for once, putting reason before reaction and thinking about pay day, I watched him demonstrate, how to let the actual spade, do most of the work. I had to admit, that he was correct. I learned an important lesson that day, primarily not to let prejudice, close my mind. Anyway during this time, I was further politicized by the deaths of two Irish republican hunger strikers, Michael Gaughan and Frank Stagg in British Gaols in England. It was a reactionary instinctual matter, along with the jailing of several other innocent Irish, such as Gerry Conlon and further experiences, around a relationship, with my first wife from Occupied Ireland, in London, that I eventually, reluctantly volunteered, for the first time, to join the IRA. With the wisdom of hindsight, it was a reactionary form of political motivation for me personally, that I now realize, was not pro-active or progressive, as it sometimes is with other Irish republicans. I will make many enemies with that statement but then I have already made many enemies with my own written experiences of my truth, particularly with the British Secret Services.


Anyway, we eventually wound up back in Newry and tried to rear five children, in an Irish town with more than 80% unemployment, that was calculatedly gerrymandered and politically engineered. Such an environment, from my own experiences in such places, brings out both the best and the worst in many people. I became a political activist and again witnessed the deaths of 10 more Irish hunger strikers. The best way I can describe this experience is, that it was traumatizing. I used to go at the end of my day, to a local pub with Irish music, to try to chill out. My family as a result of my time consuming activity and drinking, suffered from paternal neglect and poverty, which my wife mostly managed on her own. The matter climaxed one day, when Eamon Gilmore, the owner of the local supermarket at that time and with a background in the Official Republican Movement, otherwise known as the Stickies, arrived at my door. Yes the same Eamon Gilmore who later became an Irish Labour Party politician and in the Government of Ireland, held the offices of Tánaiste ( deputy Prime Minster) and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, from March 2011 until July 2014. He was also to become the Leader of the Labour Party from September 2007 to July 2014.


Anyway the bould Eamon stood at my door asserting, in a very plausible manner, that my two oldest sons, who would have been respectively aged 7 and 5 at that time, had cashed two social security checks, stolen from the letter boxes of various neighbours. I was dumbfounded and incredulous but he persisted. While he was of opposing political views to me in many respects I could see no good reason, why he was not being truthful and I told him, I would deal with the matter. Now after growing up in my own childhood home, I tried as best I could, to ensure that such things were not to be repeated in my own home. In fact when I was 16 I made a solemn vow to myself, that one day I would grow up and my home would be very different. Anyway I closed the door and while suffering from a hangover, I proceed to interrogate my two young sons, in the most civilized way that I could. They persisted to deny Mr. Gilmore's claims.


I persisted as patiently as I could under the circumstance, to interrogate them, until at length I lost my patience and ordered them, to lower their pants and I proceeded to use my belt to chastise them, until they were red. They still refused to admit guilt. After reflection that day, I decided I was a failure as a father and made the decision, that it was best for everyone, to leave. It was heart breaking but I used drink as my medicine. I might add, that leading up to that time, I had many visits, which I still regard as spurious, from British Social Services, regarding child neglect. Thirty years later I still don't know the truth of the matter but I might add, that I had many neighbours who were politically aligned with that party.  Please forgive me if I include at this point, my usual glimpse of sanity.




Paradoxically today, my best friend, is an unashamed English capitalist, with Cornish blood in his veins and a socialist heart. We argue a lot. After many years, I have come to the conclusion that the English are a very clever people. At one stage in the south of England, I was a salesman, knocking on tens of thousands of doors in the south of England for several years. I can honestly say that at the height of the Irish troubles being brought to London, I was always treated with courtesy and respect, with just the one exception. The Industrial revolution happened in England, before it happened in the rest of the world. I believe it gave them an edge in the modern world. Previously unlike Ireland they learned and applied much, from their conquest by the Roman Empire. They applied it so successfully, that they conquered and ruled the seven seas. As I previously mentioned, the sun never set on the British Empire because God couldn't trust an Englishman in the dark. The best summation I have heard of their Empire ruled by the City of London, is that they are a nation of Pirates. It still however begs the question, of how such a relatively small island, can still pull the strings in a Commonwealth, that extends to the other side of their world.





Ancient sociology, dating as far back as ancient Egypt, of which I am mostly ignorant, primarily through their art, records the common existence of various deviances, such as sex with children and animals as it still is legal is several countries to this day. I first came across this peronally, working as an activist for several years managing an Advice Centre in British Occupied Ireland. I initially could not comprehend it. Years later, in the course of trying to pass on my recovery to newcomers, some people came and confided in me with regard to this matter. They seemed otherwise, to be very sincere and gentle people. Again reluctantly I had to inform them, that I had no specific experience of these matters and from what I learned from others, I therfore was in no position to help them. I had to let them go and point them in the direction of people where they might get help. 

Recently Pitcairn, the remote Pacific island that was settled by mutineers from the British Royal Navy ship Bounty in 1789, became a focus of attention, when most of its men were put on trial on child sexual abuse offences and now has, its first female mayor. Britain sent jailers to the remote Pitcairn Island. From my own personal experience in Occupied Ireland, I believe this example, holds the key to how Britannia Rules the Waves but then who am I to judge. I simply want the children of the Island of my birth liberated, where they can get a genuine education about these critical facts of life and evolution. Where they can grow up, to be women and men free from sexual, mental and material slavery.


Saturday, 6 September 2014

SAOIRSE Phuk the Begrudgers !





This fucked up version of the song, Kevin Barry, with all Cohen's bollix and despite his ignorance of detail before the song, is still for some unknown reason, my favourite version. Leonard Cohen was one of my favourite singers when I was drinking. He can be as depressive as fuck but then it took me years after I stopped, to realize that alcohol is a depressant. I remember roaring at some friends after I stopped, how the fuck do you enjoy life in Ireland without drinking, and maybe that has something to do with leaving, going to a tropical island, where there is far more sun. When it rains, the heavens open in the monsoon season and it gets it over and done with. None of this pissin around with endless days of soft fuckin rain and dark clouds, that seems to permeate the soul when it drags on.

Well sex is one of the joys of life without drink and I don't do things by half, so it was here we go, phukit.I was no sooner off the plane, than I ordered a business lady. Something I have done thousands of times, since I first stopped drinking. Now before all you born again Irish virgins, start pointing your squeaky, clean, virgin, fingers at me, spare a thought for the poor devil, who's trying to chat up a woman, in the early years of sobriety, having previously always used the lubricant qualities of alcohol all his life in the process. It takes a while, to get the hang of it, especially with the impatient fecker packin in your pants. Anyway she arrived at my bedroom in the airport courtesy of a taxi but the Spirit bless her, she was awful skinny and I thought to myself, that poor woman might have AIDs. So i never got round to the dirty deed, paid her anyway and tried as diplomatically as I could, to make excuses.

Well the game was on, no half measures now as they say, so I got a taxi into the island's most craven arse town this side of the equator that night, and I asked him to drop me off, at the wildest sex bar the town had to offer. Now before I describe things further, you need to give me a bit of poetic licence here, as Irish Blog is already censored for all sorts of political reasons, without giving them the excuse of porn, so I will do the best I can.I might also at this point add, that my best friend is an Englishman down here, who's a bit of a prick sometimes but he's alright.

We made a feature film together, which won the International Australian Film Festival and we've worked on others unscripted and spontaneous since, along the lines of trainspotting, about boiler rooms in various parts of the world. I would also add, that no one in real life, in any of these films, ever had, hand act or part, in anything criminal or participate in anything, whatsoever, remotely related with Irish republicanism. Let that disclaimer be absolutely clear to everybody, because many will try to discredit, but as my favourite drinking toast used to say, fuck the begrudgers. This is a clip from one of them;






Well to get back to the bar, the place was rockin and I mean rockin. People have many concepts of freedom or as they say "one man's meat is another man's poison,' but in my book, freedom is freedom, and naturally, that goes for women too. There was an exotic form of female flesh on stage, playing with herself with all sorts of sexual toys, that this former Catholic altar boy, never saw before, and she was givin it stick, like the hammers of hell. The place was filled with poles and human flesh writhing and clinging on them, in apparent passionate ecstasy. There were tongues being suckin diesel in all sots of orifices, that even I, could never have imagined, up to that point in my life, despite the creative attributes of the alcoholic imagination.

There were also of course, the female hustlers and there was so much decadent flesh on offer, that I just simply couldn't decide on one, so I settled just for a simple sandwich for starters. Now a sandwich for the uninitiated, is a sexual threesome of many different formations, which in this instance, was two exceptionally brazen bitches, not particularly "politically correct" I hear you say, but then the path to wisdom, can often be the way of excess, well that's my excuse anyway. I mean if you're fighting for freedom, it's a good idea, you have it grounded in some form of experience and reality, not just some hazy political concept. That's not just my opinion, that is my experience. 

Well I'm starting to ramble again, so before I bore you today, I'll take a break and come back to this experience, hopefully soon again. But before I do, let me say to all the God fearing christians in Belfast, before they go on about exploiting the women, they were using me, while apart from the good money I spent, they were sitting on top of me later together, both on my face and nether region later on that night, with a bottle in one hand and a spliff in the other, seriously using and abusing my frail body. So up your's Mrs Robinson!

Below is a link to an article, in today's Irish Times, which prompted this article, to try give another side to 'sobriety,' which has been generally een particularly joyous for me. 

10 years of sobriety: what I’ve learned about Irish male emotions




Tuesday, 24 June 2014

ORANGE ORDER BLASPHEMY SEX ON ALTAR OF BELFAST CATHOLIC CHURCH


ORANGE ORDER INITIATION CEREMONY INCLUDES ZOOPHILIA . FOR DECENCY REASONS WE JUST SHOW THE NATURAL ANIMALS


The Irish Blog itself will not print such Blasphemy. It is simply time, to ban the Orange Order, they are a Fascist sectarian organization, that would be declared illegal n any civilized country.Whether a Catholic Church or a Mosque, this should not be allowed. Down with this sort of thing. This is what the loyalist Belfast Telegraph have shown.

Fury at pop video 'sex on the altar' in Belfast catholic church

Good Shepherd parishioners shell-shocked by X-rated DJ Wilkinson clip filmed on altar of chapel









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Sunday Life news exclusive - Wilkinson - Half LightGood Shepherd church
DJ Wilkinson's Half Light video - filmed at Good Shepherd Church on Belfast's Ormeau Road

Furious parishioners have spoken of their horror after discovering a raunchy music video was filmed in their Belfast church.

The video for London DJ Wilkinson's song Half Light depicts a young couple – played by Irish actors Joanna Nixon and Diarmuid Noyes – simulating a sex scene on the altar of Good Shepherd Catholic Church on south Belfast's Ormeau Road.
Most parishioners the Belfast Telegraph spoke to after Mass yesterday were shell-shocked.
Claire McKnight (19) said it was a "disgrace" and everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves.
"It's terrible... I don't even know what to say, I'm so shocked. To do that on the altar is horrific," she added.
A fellow parishioner said: "Well, hopefully the Church has learnt its lesson and won't allow things like this to happen again."
Peter Scullion jnr, who was on his way into the chapel for a family Christening, described the behaviour as "disgusting".
"This is a chapel, a house of God. Music videos shouldn't be allowed to be filmed in it, especially not filth like that," he said.
"Some might argue it is art – but at whose expense? It shows a complete lack of respect."
However, another man in the Christening party added: "I'm not particularly religious. It doesn't really shock or bother me. Worse things have gone on in the Church."

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The video shows the pair – portraying a Catholic and a Protestant – meeting on a night out in a club and enjoying a drink and drug-fuelled evening together.
The pair take in some of the sights of Belfast while drink-driving and having a hedonistic dance-off atop a mountain.
The man then carries the girl over his shoulder into the chapel where he proceeds to quench his thirst by drinking from the holy water font before blessing himself.
The pair then jump and slide across the pews before stripping off and having 'sex' on the altar. Local director Aoife McArdle was given permission to film in the church, but local priests Father Patrick McKenna and Father Robert Fullerton were horrified when they viewed the video's content and successfully got the illicit scenes removed.
Celebrating Mass on Sunday, Fr Fullerton waited until the end of the service to mention the incident and read out a section of a statement put out by the Down and Connor diocese.
The priests have both declined to comment further on the incident, but a Press officer for the diocese said the video had caused "most grievous distress" to it.
The statement from the Church said: "The behaviour in the video was a desecration of the church and caused most grievous distress to the parish priest."
Down and Connor diocese added: "If viewed by the parishioners, it would cause severe hurt and distress to the wider parish community.
"For these reasons, to protect the church and its parishioners, the Diocese of Down and Connor immediately brought these concerns to the attention of the distributors and creators of the material."
The diocese said it had not granted permission for a scene of that nature to be filmed in the place of worship.
"No permission was either sought or granted to film the interior of the parish church within the context of any conduct or activities that were not relating to prayer or homage and in accordance with the sanctity of the church," it said.
Neither the video director Ms McArdle nor Mark Wilkinson responded to attempts by the Belfast Telegraph to contact them yesterday.
Background
Mark Wilkinson, aka Wilkinson, is a London-based drum and bass music producer and DJ.
His single Half Light reached number 25 in the UK Charts after its June 1 release. He is perhaps best known for his single Afterglow, which reached number 8 in 2013. The DJ has also produced music for top names such as Wretch 32 and Katy B. It is unclear why the video was shot in Northern Ireland, but the gritty street scenes are reminiscent of pop star Rihanna's We Found Love music video which was mostly filmed in the New Lodge area of Belfast. That video also created controversy.

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williamnatson
Instead of violating the sacred places of other people, maybe you should just stay at home and read about the famous atheists of the 20th century --- Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc and it will show you where society goes when it lives as if there is no God.








williamnatson
"The Catholic church allows child rape and they're shocked and disgusted by this?"
No, the Church has always said that such sin is deserving of eternal damnation. What about that do you not understand? Or not want to understand? 








raffles
Did they get a grant from Arlene's department like Game of Thrones.....it seems the more debase you get sexually the better it is for you here, and the more support you'll get with incentives and freebies. Who knows they could be in for a Tourism Award next year like HBO!!... as ambassadors for Northern Ireland  :-) 








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antieverything
I thought the Bible said Jesus was the son of God not that Jesus WAS God.  The whole Triumvirate things was stolen from another Religion anyway. 
I also know that our modern Bible has little resemblance to what was originally written, it has been edited so many times.  Did the Church not cut lumps out which confused the message they were trying to put across during the first millennia, you know like the bit where Saul/Paul gets a female disciple who goes around preaching with him, and she is then sent to Rome as an emissary.
Then of course various monarchs, most notably James, had changes made during translation one of the best being "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" when the word for witch can actually mean murder/ess.

Oh and when the church owns the establishments which corroborate their evidence it leads to all sorts of conflict of interests which in any other business would not be allowed.  And yes religion is a multi billion pound business.

I have no problem with what a person believes (their Faith) but Religions are designed to control how people think and to me that is wrong.
















npbuk
The Telly is participating in the blasphemy with its blatant prominent publication of the most offensive element. And to think that they would not reproduce the Muslim cartoons.








Ernesto1
Aside from the insult to the Catholic church, the music is vacuous sh*te but no one seems to bother about that!








gadaffiduck
Love, the greatest offence of all to the catholic church.

People offended at any expression of love need to get a grip.

Offence in the catholic church for me is seeing a convicted murderer, fraudster, fuel launderer, terrorist attending mass in their Sunday best as if butter wouldn't melt. No that is offensive,








antieverything
I have mixed feelings about this, firstly I think that the people responsible for the church should have been in attendance during the filming to ensure that nothing untoward happened.

Secondly the people making the video are bang out of order for doing this, I do not follow any religion but I still respect the sanctity of Holy places.

















LoveItaly14
@antieverything I agree, like you I don't follow any religion but respect Holy Places.
I am very sorry for the parishoners but feel the Clergy have a lot to answer.
How much did the church receive for this and  why did the clergy not get full script?
The Bishop, in my opinion, should conduct a full enquiry into.
















duder1
Fake outrage. Fake offence. Fake moral superiority. Fake disgust.


Everyone's mum and dad had sex, somewhere, you know.








Atheist
The Catholic church allows child rape and they're shocked and disgusted by this?
Get your priorities right people. The Catholic church has been proved to be a criminal organisation covering up paedophile activity and letting the perpetrators go free. What shocks me is that people are still willing to support this organisation.








Tonesman
Hopefully prosecutions will follow as this was lewd behaviour in a public place (assuming the Tele's description is accurate).








river
These parishioners should be getting the final wake up call that their church is not what it seems.   This video is no mistake.  Leave the building and go to God.








Stephen5000
My goodness, is this stuff still going on? Madonna really started it in 1989 with 'like a prayer', & that was 25 years ago! By the way, shouldn't the 'tele' have provided a link so we can see the video ourselves? :)

















draculastongue
At least they were the age of consent, and willing participants, unlike many of the hidden abuse exposed of late in the RC church's less savory side.

















deliasgirl
@draculastongue That makes about as much sense as someone trashing your house because a small percentage of gays abuse children.
















Ulysses32
Give draculastongue a chance. He's still trying to figure out a way to blame it on Sinn Fein......That's two comments and he hasn't even mentioned them once.








SodaFarl
Yawn....the young trying to be trendy and controversial - as if we haven't all seen it done before! Interesting though no-one from the church seems to have been present during the filming which strikes me as a bit rash and negligent to say the least.

















draculastongue
@SodaFarl No-one from the church present? Ha. Do you believe that?
















william1
@draculastongue @SodaFarl  If you are not an RC and you despise them so much then why do you take an interest in what they do?Is that the Orange way of being a Christian ,insult as much as one can and then name call.Bear in mind you are only insulting the parishioners with your caustic comments who are not the church per se-so cut it out . 
















Mullingarman
ok Mr. Wilkinson you have used your artistic license a bit too much for some peoples liking, but I suppose you are entitled to your artistic license.....However.....when can we expect to see the raunchy scenes re-enacted in a Mosque or does your artistic license know CERTAIN boundaries.....or do I get a whiff of hypocrisy from Mr. Wilkinson's Artistic license?








TJMcClean
People obsessed with money and fame will do just about anything to get the lifeblood of cheap publicity. Why go out of your way to upset so many people by your antics? Answer, because you can. 








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martyg
typical fleggers comment. Demands respect but shows nothing but contempt
















merkelsmate
@martyg Sorry, but I couldn't care less about *flegs*!    Just pointing out the church will do anything for $$$$?  Or did they break in??  Probably complain about this post too?  You really must get out more and stop believing the drivel you are subject to on a Sunday morn!
















martyg
Your original, now removed post, had nothing to do with church profits. It was to do with the church being offended by the grown men, dressed like something out of a beatles video, playing hate filled songs outside their properties.
I didn't complain about any of your posts, I'd rather they remained on view for everyone to see.
How could you possibly know what I do on a sunday morning?








ArthurM1
@merkelsmate 
I gather in your hideous comment on the wine you are relating to the Holy Catholic Church's dogma on transubstantiation. Could you please further the floor your doubts on the subject in order to establish a worthwhile theological debate on the theme.
















merkelsmate
@ArthurM1 I apologise for bursting your bubble!  Nothing holy about the catholic church, as they themselves have proved over the last 20 years. You are quite entitled to believe in pixies, fairies, leprechauns, etc. As for theological debate, where do you start?
















william1
@merkelsmate @ArthurM1 it is not just the RC church who are the pixie believers .The ludicrous fairy tale of a book "the Bible" is followed in different ways by all other hate filled Christians.perhaps you should all reflect on your ignorant ways.








ArthurM1
At last, a sensible utterance from the master of sarcasm. Well, the theme I have already related to will do for a start. What are your views on it and can you cite any substantial evidence to bolster your argument?