Showing posts with label Gobshites. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gobshites. Show all posts

Wednesday, 24 December 2014

BRITISH QUEEN'S IRISH GOBSHITES




The Six-County State, which the British call northern Ireland, is an abnormal and fundamentally undemocratic scum sectarian entity, which is glued together by British taxpayers monies, to the tune of 12 billion pound sterling annually, to keep a hold on Irish resources, for the City of London, since 1921. 


The right to political protest, is denied there, to those who refuse to bow to the parameters of British Viceroyal Villiers. For the Stormont junta and it's British masters, civil rights only apply to those gobshites, who lick the arse of the British Crown in Ireland. The only thing useful about the latest 'Stormont House Agreement' is to wipe your arse with it, so I will let you get it on paper yourself instead, if you don't take my word for it. It's simply another sellout by careerist gobshites, of the people of no property, like the blueshirts in the south of Ireland.

Anyway the following news is more important. Years ago in the early 1970's, on a visit to Belfast, the Queen arrived in her private plane, with lots of Unionist bigwigs greeting her. After she was driven off, another plane arrived and landed. It was a huge Hercules transport plane, from which a small crate was taken off, put in a van and headed off in the same direction, after the queen. Rumour has it, that the second plane contained only the Queen's toilet and that when she got there, the Unionists were amiss, as to who should be Her Groom of the Stool on her Irish visit. It was at that time, the Gobshite's services were first recruited. 

Before her loafs are vanquished, her royal Gobshite must examine them for quality, after which he must deiicately remove any remaining arsebiscuits, with some cunninglingus. It is rumoured that the old gobshite is getting a bit shakey in the knees and tongue lately and he may be bestowed the honour of some assistance from an Xpensive Quill. Apparently they both have a condition, that is commonly called societal stockholm syndrome, and it's very effective with commoners, in British Occupied Ireland, seemingly.

The Connemara Dictionary.
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The Connemara D
ictionary, originated in the West of Ireland, particularly in Mayo, Galway and parts of Tipperary after the blueshirts forced the natives to speak English, so they came up with some mock English words of their own. The following are words and phrases, that can often be heard in what some call culchiedom:

A fierce pile of bog : A sizable quantity of bog

G'wan ta fuck autt a dat:Please go away

A Thundering fuck :An unreliable person

A shlap in the face of a brick:To be struck square in the face with a brick

A soft day :Miserable fucking weather

Hardy man :Someone who can survive waking up buck naked in filthy ditch water on January the first after a year long drinking session

Machine : General purpose term used to refer to any man made implement more advanced than a pitch fork

Hang sangwedge :

Salty ham surrounded by two slices stale bread. A buffer of cheap margarine, preferably Blue-Band (half inch thick) must separate the ham from the bread. A top class hang sangwige will of course contain a sprinkling of sand.

A paka ha tayho :A bag of crisps

Finches, ave'u the :Have you the Finches orange soda

Girleen:Any girl an older man would like to get his leg over.

Land Rover :Usually a ford escort van that has seen better days.

Mighty :Indicative of something being very good

Craic :Fun, as in Mighty Craic or The Craic was Mighty

Locked :Very drunk

After a few shcoops :reasonably drunk

Flahed :a state of extreme exhaution, usually brought on by consecutive locked nights

Fien :Man whose name is unknown, or unremembered at the present time.

Fine piece of shtuff :used to describe a person considered attractive.

Bollox :multiple uses, generally derogatory

Cunt of a ting :Something very difficult to do or use.

Jaysus :An expression of surprise.

Be Jaysus :An expression of sheer surprise.

Fukdat :An expression of mild displeasure

Yoke :Just about anything whose proper Description doesn't spring to mind

Fierce :It is, yes.

Eeegit :Somebody less intelligent than oneself. i.e. a complete fool altogether

A cute Hoor :

Somebody more intelligent than oneself. i.e. not a complete fool altogether. In some situations this may refer to a person's ability to weasal out of buying their round of drinks, particularlary in
Co Cork, as in "Ye Cute Cork Hoor".


A tight Kunt:

Similar to "A cute Hoor" and again has very little to do with the fairer sex except in perhaps her inability to fork out for her share of the booze.


Gobshite: Someone very high in the "Eeegit" stakes but will generally be a tourist or perhaps from Loonderry with special skills.

Yoke-m-abus : Any form of motorised transport

An onmercifull fe-ad : A very large Sunday dinner partaken after several pints of Guinness


Nollaig Shona Daoibh!

Sunday, 7 September 2014

INDYMEDIA IRELAND Heil, mein Führer!



ROTHSHITES & GOBSHITES - Indymedia Ireland:

PRESSTITUTE CENSORED LINK ABOVE

The article above along with another recent article was censored by what purports to be Indymedia Ireland. Both articles are included below. This censorship of two factual articles, is an example of what is really happening under the guise of a failed Peace Process in Ireland, where fascism hides it's ugly face, even in what is known worldwide as Indymedia. I have my articles published worldwide in all of Indymedia outlets, in every country except Ireland. I'm sure fair minded people who read the articles below, can come to their own conclusions, about how little freedom there is any part of Ireland even among those who wear a liberal mask. Decide for yourself, but meantime I brand this excuse for a free press as the Presstitutes of Indymedia Ireland. Please help un-censor these articles by re-sharing and re\tweeting their links if you agree.


Senior Pentagon Official ;

“No, we give the European political leaders bagfuls of money. They are for sale, We bought them. They report to us.” Perhaps this explains Tony Blair’s $50 million fortune one year out of office."

We've suspected this for years in Ireland. Why else would Ireland and Britain's health systems, our national assets, built over many generations, with taxpayers contributions, change to U.S. private interests, the very same U.S. private interests which cannot provide proper health care to ordinary Americans. Why else would Shannon Airport, in a supposedly a supposedly neutral country, be handed over for NATO use?

We now have the story above, straight from the horse's mouth of the Pentagon, spilling the beans. Every Irish and European leader and past ministers alive, should be questioned and interrogated on this article, but the mainstream presstitute, whores, won't do it. They'll be allowed to walk away with the money as usual no questions asked.

Colonization was the theft of resources in places like Ireland, the only difference today, is a name change. Resources worldwide are now stolen through the IMF and corporations. Colonization is more prevalent than ever, with none of the wealth shared by average citizens, of even the wealthier states. Everyone is now colonized, enforced by police states, impoverished and brainfilthed by mainstream corporate whore houses of political porn.

How strange then, that Irish people who claim, they would do anything for their children, while at the same time selling out their country, that will be barely inhabitable for the their children. Scameron's other island of Orangemen, Blueshirts and Sellouts.






Speaking with many people from across the political divide in Ireland currently , the general consensus privately, is that Irish Peace Process, is currently dying a slow death. One of its principal architects Gerry Adams in a statement recently stated, “The political process is in trouble. I believe that the political process faces its greatest challenge since the Good Friday Agreement negotiations in 1998. The anti-Good Friday Agreement axis within unionism; the pro-unionist stance of the British secretary of state Theresa Villiers; the refusal of Downing Street to honour its own obligations, are combining to create the most serious threat to the political institutions in the North in recent years.

“The result of all this is directly undermining power-sharing and partnership government. The unionist leaderships have been encouraged in their posture by a British government that has not been fully engaged with the political process for four years.” He added, that traditional pro-British Unionist were unwilling to participate positively in any of the Agreement's institutions, stating that “Instead it has adopted a tactical approach aimed at serving the political agenda of a fundamentalist rump in their party rather than the needs of the whole community,”

Again yesterday, Adams made a veiled attack, on the current Fine Gael regime in Government in the South of Ireland, which has traditionally protected the Unionists in the North, stating, "An anti-agreement axis has now emerged. There needs to be a pro-agreement axis and the two Governments need to be very, very focused on delivering on the agreement.” 

The Irish Government has been too passive in my view and the Taoiseach(Irish Prime minister) could well emulate the example of Albert Reynolds (Another Peace Process architect who died last week)  to get involved and press ahead but particularly to keep the British Government to its obligations.”

The traditional Unionist Leader in the north Peter Robinson statement in reply, "Once more we see the self-serving attempt by Sinn Fein to distract public attention from real problems by blaming everyone, except itself, for what it asserts is a crisis that impacts on the political institutions."

Last week Hilary Clinton 's aide “Today, too many in Ireland take two decades of a ceasefire for granted. They still focus on their own sense of victimhood of the past and fail to forge a new united community that can not only solidify the peace, but even build shared prosperity. A look back at the hard-fought ceasefire may encourage some broader thinking about the responsibility of leadership to build a better shared future for the people of Ireland.”

The British Conservative Government and their Vice Royal in Ireland, since coming to power, other than enforcing a heavy censorship of international media coverage of the ongoing low intensity war In Occupied Ireland, have irresponsibly taken a hands off approach with the Peace Process and essentially have failed to understand the critical small print of the dying Good Friday agreement.

In a recent statement the leader of Republican Sinn Fein, the traditional  Irish Republican voice, leader Des Dalton stated, "We are being asked to abandon the high ideals, that inspired that revolutionary generation of a century ago and instead embrace the mythology of empire. It is evident that in the decade of centenaries, the political establishments of Leinster House, Stormont and Westminster, are determined to draw a line under Irish history. By demonising and isolating Irish Republicanism and refusing it access to public debate, they hope, that it will simply fade from the public consciousness, robbed of historical or political legitimacy. Quoting from a Ronan Fanning article in the Irish Times, he added,  “…the propagation of a bland, bloodless, bowdlerised and inaccurate hybrid of history, which if carried to extremes, is more likely to provoke political outrage than to command intellectual respect, let alone consensus.”

The Freemasonry of the Orange Order are now front and centre in Unionist, Fine Gael and British politics. Its Chaplain, Rev Mervyn Gibson, the most influential person in all-party talks on flags, parading and the past, is even more influential after the DUP and UUP scuttled the talks by the recent US Government to try move the dying process on, with its envoys Richard Haas and Meghan Sullivan sent packing by the Orange Order, exercising its trump card, the Orange veto.This is one of many critical factors, that was not dealt with by The Peace process. Another was the issue of large numbers of political prisoners still languishing in British Gaols, in both parts of Ireland. This threatens to explode again at any moment, in the same way that, the Hunger Strike of Bobby Sands and the 11 other Irish Republicans, who starved to death on Hunger Strike, changing the face of Irish politics and giving the platform to Adams voice, to be serious player he now is in Irish politics.


Now however, as the Orange Order have demonstrated themselves to be the real voice of traditional Unionism, while  Adams clearly does not speak for traditional Irish Republicans. What Nancy Soderberg and the British Conservative Party in London have failed to grasp, is that the Good Friday Agreement will not stick, without a proper foundation, in the context of both the Orange and Green traditions of Ireland. These traditions are deep in the psyche of the majority of Irish people's consciousness. One of the principal lessons of the last 800 years of irish History which Ms Soderberg in the context of Ireland and many American citizens in the context of their own short history, fail to understand is "Old Europe."


In light of all of this, one does not have to be particularly bright to observe, that the Peace Process is past its sell by date on the ground in Ireland. It clearly needs to evolve into something more comprehensive and inclusive with respect to the matter of Orange/Green traditions and their real voices. Clearly again for a more permanent solution, the "Peace Process needs to evolve from a superficially contrived short term solution into a bedded down Comprehensive Settlement Process


Settlement Process


The English Oxford dictionary  defines "settlement"as "An official agreement intended to resolve a dispute or conflict." Obviously in any permanent settlement, compromise is critical and nobody is going to achieve their ideals.This needs to be first accepted by everyone at the negotiating table, however painful.The alternative is a war for total victory, the consequence of which, no sane mind can countenance. Most fair minded traditional Irish republicans will acknowledge, that the Orange tradition has made considerable sacrifices, with respect to their identity, particularly in the context of both World Wars and the recent ongoing war in Ireland, with tens of thousands losing their lives in all of this.This is a considerable factor in their tradition and identity. Any agreement that ignores this reality is doomed.


Likewise within the "green tradition" millions of Irish have died, as a result of British colonialism. This reality cannot simply be airbrushed out of Irish history by revisionism because it is deeply embedded, consciously or unconsciously, within the Irish psyche, on the same scale as the Jewish Holocaust is with Israelites. It also must be addressed within any credible settlement.There are  many other pressing, critical social issues within Ireland, such as a Bill of Civil Rights, People before Profit, transparent genuine Immediate Democracy, with modern technology, such as the internet democracy, with checks and balances, that ensure ordinary people have real voting power against unregulated Corporate monopolies hijacking the constitutional process with political bribery and the current endemic corruption of the present sytem, in all parts of Ireland


To any objective political view, of the small island of Ireland, with its current political realities, it is crystal clear, that a Federal solution similar to many other European countries, is really the only feasible solution to the current reality with an arrangement where Unionists in Ulster keep their identity and traditions, within a British Commonwealth arrangement, customized specifically to facilitate their specific traditions and arrangements and possibly protect them along with their British brethren form the creeping, fascist monopoly of Europe. This of course will be anathema to many traditional Irish republicans, but it will take compromise, fair mindedness and sacrifice, in any credible settlement, that is based on reality, as opposed to the horrific alternative.

Of course many will argue, that the changing demographics on the ground will change this, but in a Spirit of true reconciliation all minorities, including immigrant aspirations, must be respected in any genuine modern democracy. Traditional Irish Republicans like Ruarai O'Bradaigh, recognized this and presented drafts for a comprehensive agreement that factored in much of this compromise, in a Spirit of Genorosity, which has traditionally been a much acclaimed Irish characteristic, at least until recently. It is time for everyone to get real, put their ego's and personalities to one side and make this comprehensive, inclusive, settlement a reality, based on civilized principles of human progress.

The author formally does not belong to any political organization and offers this proposal in a spirit of unity not division. Because of fascist censorship in Ireland presently, I also ask  those readers who agree with the outlines of this proposal, to share it wherever you can. If you belong to a political party, trade union or political forum or platform, please take up this proposal and make it as inclusive as possible. If you are overseas or non Irish, we still need your help for a comprehensive, inclusive settlement.

by Brian Clarke

Friday, 5 September 2014

ROTHSHITES & GOBSHITES - Censored

ROTHSHITES & GOBSHITES - Indymedia Ireland:

PRESSTITUTE CENSORED LINK

The article above was censored by what purports to be Indymedia Ireland, along with another recent article. Both articles are included below. This censorship of two factual articles, is an example of what is really happening under the guise of a failed Peace Process in Ireland, where fascism hides it's ugly face, even in what is known worldwide as Indymedia. I have my articles published worldwide in all of Indymedia outlets, in every country except Ireland. I'm sure fair minded people who read the articles, can come to their own conclusions about how little freedom there is any part of Ireland even those, who wear a liberal mask. Decide for yourself but meantime I brand this excuse for a free press as the Presstitutes of Indymedia Ireland







Senior Pentagon Official ;

“No, we give the European political leaders bagfuls of money. They are for sale, We bought them. They report to us.” Perhaps this explains Tony Blair’s $50 million fortune one year out of office."

We've suspected this for years in Ireland. Why else would Ireland and Britain's health systems, our national assets, built over many generations, with taxpayers contributions, change to U.S. private interests, the very same U.S. private interests which cannot provide proper health care to ordinary Americans. Why else would Shannon Airport, in a supposedly a supposedly neutral country, be handed over for NATO use?

We now have the story above, straight from the horse's mouth of the Pentagon, spilling the beans. Every Irish and European leader and past ministers alive, should be questioned and interrogated on this article, but the mainstream presstitute, whores, won't do it. They'll be allowed to walk away with the money as usual no questions asked.

Colonization was the theft of resources in places like Ireland, the only difference today, is a name change. Resources worldwide are now stolen through the IMF and corporations. Colonization is more prevalent than ever, with none of the wealth shared by average citizens, of even the wealthier states. Everyone is now colonized, enforced by police states, impoverished and brainfilthed by mainstream corporate whore houses of political porn.

How strange then, that Irish people who claim, they would do anything for their children, while at the same time selling out their country, that will be barely inhabitable for the their children. Scameron's other island of Orangemen, Blueshirts and Sellouts.

Tuesday, 29 October 2013

WHO VOTES FOR BLABOUR GOBSHITES


Irish mastery of doublespeak has led us to a tragic endpoint





The Irish establishment speaks, in the words of Bing Crosby, “a language that the strangers do not know”. It is not Irish or English. It is doublespeak. The problem, indeed, is that they speak it all too well. Colm Tóibín once wrote that English people are mono but Irish people are stereo. More relevantly today, alas, the Irish are stereo while the Germans are mono.
Irish culture values the ability to broadcast on two different channels at the same time, to speak simultaneously out of both sides of the mouth. It probably comes from having, for some centuries, two vernacular languages, one for power and money (English) and the other for home, community and place (Irish).
It certainly relates to a history of oppression. Poor people who depend on the whims of their betters learn to be stereo, to tell the powerful what they want to hear (“I say a little prayer for you every day sir!”) and tell yourself what you need to say (“The bastard doesn’t know that the prayer is that he may rot in hell!”).

Verbal hypocrisyWhatever its roots, Irish doublespeak blossomed into a rich flowering of verbal hypocrisy. We developed a public language in which every sentence has a silent clause that annuls its meaning. Emigration is a tragedy – but the real tragedy would be if all these unwanted parasites hung around to cause trouble. Young people are our greatest asset – especially if they feck off out of here. A united
Ireland is our dream – if it didn’t have any Protestants in it.
We have a special love for children – we love them enough to build special institutions in which to incarcerate them. We revere our artists – but, Jesus, would it kill your man to give us a bit of a laugh now and then? We have a spiritual attachment to our countryside – how much would that field be worth if it was rezoned? And so on.
Weirdly, there was a moment when doublespeak came into its own, when it seemed supple and benign.
During the peace process, it became “creative ambiguity”. The process was based on the ability to take apparently fixed words – nation, State, sovereignty, identity, consent – and make them fluid, elastic and open to interpretation. Language was engineered precisely to be heard in stereo, with each side lending an ear to a different channel. Each could hear what it wanted to hear.
Out of all of this, presumably, came a strange confidence in the power of Irish doublespeak. The notion took hold that, even in a dire crisis, the state of Ireland could be articulated officially in two simultaneous but mutually contradictory ways. On one channel, there is
Message A, intended to be heard only by the Irish domestic public. It is that things are really, really terrible. They are so bad that we must take home help away from your sick 90-year-old mother and respite care away from the parents
of autistic children.




So bad that we can’t have counsellors in schools even when kids are killing themselves, so bad that A&Es have to go back to the status of field hospitals in the Crimean War. So bad that we have to go back to 1950s levels of emigration.
All of this has to be done because the State is in a terrible financial crisis, but it is a dirty business and the authorities are very sorry to have to do it.
But on the other channel there’s Message B: we’re grand. It is intended for the international markets. It is a message of confidence and reassurance. Our public finances are not in crisis; they are eminently manageable. The economy has turned the corner. We are not just a success story – we are the success story. We are not merely a credit to ourselves. We are a shining example to others. This is not dirty business: it is a cleansing and a sanctifying thing. This doublespeak might have worked, for we ourselves are so used to it that we take it for granted. But in this case there is the complicating factor of a third audience: our gallant allies in Europe and in particular Germany.

The wrong channel 
The problem is that the Germans have been hearing the wrong channel. They need to be hearing Message A: Ireland is in dire trouble. They’re actually getting Message B: Ireland is grand. Or, as finance minister Wolfgang Schäuble put it: “We think Ireland is doing very well. Ireland did what Ireland had to do . . . now everything is fine.”
Fine in this case includes not just the barbaric A&Es and the bereft carers and the suicides and the mass emigration but also the €64 billion of bank debt that we assumed to save the euro.
This is the tragic endpoint of Irish doublespeak. The boy who cried “wolf” came to a bad end because he said things were dire so many times that no one believed him when they really were dire. Ireland, uniquely, has pulled off the opposite trick. No one believes that the wolf is here because we’ve spent so much time assuring them that wolves
do not exist.
eckeCy
Not so much double speak as Paddy thinking he's a clever B...... Reason why he will have more value on a dishonest penny then on an honest sixpence, or he has pulled a fast one on another Paddy, and sold him something for twice it's value........this dishonesty is part and parcel of what we are. It might be that we can blame St Patrick or perhaps the British, or now that we are supposed to be independent the Germans. Give me a break!!
ConO'Driscoll
As Brendan Behan once observed: if they dropped the Bomb and there were only three Paddies left in the world you'd find two of them in a corner conspiring as to how best to shaft the third.
ConO'Driscoll
Wonder why Freud - at least allegedly - said the Irish were the only race immune to psychoanalysis?

Was it because he saw us - as Yeats did - as a nation of liars to whom psychoanalysis would be just another exercise in self- and other-delusion?
JohnKane
Yes - entirely accurate observation
JohnKane
As I said - its mostly the irish being what they think of as being polite - its a cultural thing - I found it hard when I first arrived in 1980 - I thought the irish were simply unable to speak the truth - and as such their 'opinions' were less than useless to me - still are - I came from a background were if it got out that you were gilding the lily in such a manner no one would be bothered with you- socially or professionally - but its when its elevated to the national level that its really a problem - it you cannot accurately and honestly analyze a problem then you'll never be able to at least try and fix it - and thats why Ireland will always be in trouble - other small nations have been able to run themselves well - Ireland never will simply because they cannot speak the truth - it seems like such a small thing - but it has huge impacts - saving yourself the trouble of having to actually tell the truth - and lying to yourself that you are saving the others feelings isn't polite - its as ignorant as you can get in my book - it is infact -yet another lie - lying to yourself that you are doing a good thing - maybe the other person really needed the truth - not self serving politeness
IrishTimesCommenter
Quite a narrow point of view taken in ths article in my opinion, and missing the bigger picture. The "it's grand" line was not coming from Ireland for the little pat on the head from Europe (though I suppose that also happened to be a side effect) - there were real and tangible benefits for that image being broadcast outside of Ireland in terms of our bond yield spreads. If we were to go with the "we're completely in the shit here" as you seem to be suggesting, our bond yields would be so bad that there's no way the upcoming bailout exit would happen and guess what then Fintan? The horrific cuts that you've referenced would continue to go on for more years that has already been the case... and who would that help exactly? The fundamental point that's being missed here is that like it or not, investors with money are not going to buy the bonds of states that are deemed to be up the creek because they're less likely to get their money back - it's basic economics.
BrendanCorrigan
We are good at not calling a 'spade a spade' for sure; something that our straight-talking Teutonic friends wouldn't get. I never realised how similar we are in some aspects to Latinos...http://bit.ly/LbcE9V
ConO'Driscoll
Wonder has it to do with Catholic ''mental reservations'', the idea that it's Ok to lie so long as you silently tell yourself the truth or some version with it at the same time as you're lying to others; that it's ok to mislead with ambiguity and evasion; that taking oaths with every intention of breaking them is OK so long as you've your fingers crossed behind your back?
AnthonyGallagher
a flea on an elephants back does not have much clout ,we make up 1% of the great european superstate ,we sold our soul to the devil ,all we have to show for it is mass emigration ,a failed political state ,an economic melt down where living standards will continue to fall for those on the margins ,double speak or not thats the reality .democracy has never taken root in this country because the structures put in pace after independence made sure power remained within a small elite
JohnKane
as well articulated as anyone has managed.
ShelleyKeary
Well yes, Fintan, things are grand if you have a decent job and have medical insurance, no disabled children and elderly parents with a civil service pension. Unfortunately these are the people that our government thinks Ireland is populated with instead of terrified unemployed couples with families and huge mortgages or parents of children that need 24 hour care. Until Noonan and Howlin find a pair and tackle massive state pensions this unequal system remains.
PatrickO'Dowd
The premise of this column is idiotic. The Germans like anybody else will simply look at the facts and figures which speak for themselves. What is the Govt deficit as a percentage of GDP compared to when the bail-out started, is the trend in the right direction? What are the growth forecasts? will the int'l money markets have confidence in Ireland. The Irish Govt also know that it comes down to the figures. This is just Fintan O'Toole spinning a story to fit his whinge and whine agenda.
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ColmGillis
Well the 'facts and figures' were fine until public debt got lumped in with private debt. Socialism for the wealthy.
PatrickO'Dowd
Even without the bank debt Ireland would still have been in a bad spot. But for once it seems we agree about something - its the figures that determine what decisions will be taken. Nothing at all to do with FoT's inane notions of double-speak.
BrianFlanagan1
The reality is that the "we are grand" spin from Irish politicians also suits Germany as it means that they don't have to contemplate putting their hands into their pockets. They convenienty choose to ignore the fact that our Debt/GDP is 120+% and our Debt/GNP is about 160%. You don't have to be a finance minister to know that this is completely unsustainable and that things will continue to be "awful" for a long time.
JohnKane
It is really sad that some people cannot realize that there are far more factors that influence outcomes that black and white figures - for example - based on black and white figures Apple would have gone to the wall in the late 80'2 or early 90's - but there was more to it than that - and look at what they achieved - so called facts and figures are almost meaningless without being able to read the truth behind them
dinglesprout
...So bad "...we must take home help away from your sick 90-year-old mother..." but not so bad we have to take extra tax from the wealthy and privileged; not so bad that we can't afford the best paid politicians on the planet.
ZackLeeWright
For some people all is grand, the politicians who are pushing the message B to the world are all fine and dandy. In fact things could hardly be better. For the rest of us who have to live our daily lives with the reality of austerity things are bleak. Ya see austerity is not for all, the poeple who champion it are the ones who are least affected by it. The Irish people are ultimately to blame though as they continue to vote for the same oh, same oh. Until that changes nothing will change!
ConO'Driscoll
Remember Kenny's nauseating televised address to the nation? That waste of electricity was when he told the country that it wasn't their fault, emphasising it several times.

And the following week he was over in Brussels telling the Bilderbergers and the ECB and the IMF that ''we all partied'' and that in fact it was Ireland's fault that the country was ruined.

Good recent example of what Fintan is talking about. The Irish propensity for fooling ourselves and others.
JayGee
"The more you say the less the better. Whatever ye say, say nothing".