PUP leader Billy Hutchinson: Treating loyalists like white trash is not going to work
Belfast Telegraph Comments (220)
Cowardly Loyalist gangsters run the nieghbourhoods these thugs are coming from & he has no idea who is organising this violence against the democratic peace loving majority in Belfast,
These same neighbourhoods have been turned into ghettos through the same so called loyalists ,
Through
Drug dealing ,
Prostitution ,
Protection rackets ,
Through rioting ,looting & burning ,
Anyone amongst these communities that speaks out becomes a victim of these cowardly thugs,
These so called loyalists are leaches feeding of there own people,
Loyal to nothing but there own pockets,
If you do not want to be seen as white trash or treated like white trash then stop the fascist thug violence -
Stop attacking politicians family homes ,
Stop burning political offices,
Stop attacking churches,
Stop attempting to murder the police,
Stop laying siege to city hall,
Stop harassing the day to day peace loving majority in Belfast trying to get about there lives & run there
businesses ,
If you behave like violent fascist thugs you will be treated as white trash,
The violence atticted scum amongst loyalism & the dissident republicans should feel the full force of the law,
Only then can we the peace loving majority set about continuing to build a prosperous future for all our people.
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Rosieroop106p·
Seriously, this article could have been done in two lines.
Chris: Who has organised this protest and what are you all protesting about?
Billy: I haven't a notion.
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tyroneprod-86p·
Treating Protestants like Negro slaves is not going to work either. We have a right to protest outside the Republican universe of fairy tales and lies.
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Downpatrick0101112p·
When will they realise there a laughing stock and nobody cares one bit about them not because there protestant or working class but because they arent civilized and act like scum!
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Seamus0998p· 10 hours ago
Once again, we see loyalist morons on the streets complaining about the flag begin taken down. Due to their lack of intelligence, they fail to realize that Belfast is brought into line with other BRITISH cities!
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IrishStew95p·
Should move them all to Oklahoma, stick them in a trailer and let a tornado take care of them. Waste of skin, the lot of them.
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Seamus0998p· 14 hours ago
So much for the 10,000 that would turn out to protest. I fear Billy boy your weed smoking got in the way of your counting.
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Woburn_exile85p·
Oh stop your miserable whining hutchinson. Decency triumphed over anarchy and evil, the so called loyalists dipped out just like the so called dissidents. The polarised shiite in government today are there by majority election and have been busy carving out shares for themselves. People like you and your whining ilk are like like the dissident republican splinters that are not even getting leftovers from the plate. That is not even white trash as you put it, it is just trash. McG and co have been seemed to be worthy of recycling, your lot and those like you are only fit for landfill or incineration.
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ArthurM197p·
Saturday 14:00 hours. Well now there's a surprise! The marchers were in breach of the P.C.ruling! What happened the 10,000 protesters as promised? Perhaps people are tiring of the charade and it is near it's conclusion. What a boost for Billy and the PUP. Finger on the pulse by the bus-hoppers.
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paddy_trevors96p·
Billy if you lot want to do something positive for northern Ireland " why don't you all "do a Johnny" go and live with
your mates in Scotland! but then again that might not work because the Scottish police would not stand for your behaviour.
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IrishRepublican93p·
"The Fleg! Parades! Themmuns! The Peelers!"
The PUP manifesto.
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IrishRepublican93p·
(P)arading to (U)ndermine (P)rogress
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hanna_banana88p·
White trash- love that expression and it sums them up to a T.
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stonedcrow80p·
Of the problems facing working class protestants flags and parades are the least of them. Employment, health, education and housing are the real issues and where they have been let down by their leaders. All we hear though is this nonsense about stupid symbols. What good has British rule done for these people? Whether we're ruled by Stormont, London, Dublin or Brussels it's just some liars in suits ripping us off.
Working class protestants have most in common with working class catholics. We need local leaders who can rise above this petty sectarianism and work for peoples rights in these times of austerity. I hate all these stupid flags - you can't eat a flag.
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GrandWazoo86p·
When working class people are made to feel marginalized, especially by their political leaders, they will inevitably look to the 'traditional' leaders to guide them ... unfortunately those 'wartime' leaders are only interested in serving themselves ( E.g. DUP, UDA, UVF hence we have these fleg protests )
PUL leaders now seem to be intent on painting themselves into the 'victim' camp.
"We the previous persecutors of inequality are not now enjoying the preferential treatment we once received, We want redress"
I'm only glad that the vast majority of us don't want fleg protests or car bombs on our streets anymore and are a little bit more empowered to say so.
Maybe if the extremists on both sides came down off their thinly disguised horses, we as a people could move forward.
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JohnLSullivan94p·
The Tele could have gotten a better picture of Billy ? He has a stye ( caused by bacterial infection usually fecal matter) and a cold sore on his lip? Is he participating too much in the Twaddle Dogging ?
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ArthurM197p·
This man has no shame. If you're in a hole stop digging. No better still, do us all a favour - STAY IN IT!
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homelessdon13p·
can anyone please escort this man to the post office tomorrow. they are probably the only ones in city center who can provide a scale suitable to find the correct weight of his brains....
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callumbm90p·
"Treating loyalists like white trash is not going to work"
It does if you're acting like white trash #OccupyTwaddell
A new flags policy is needed. Either:
a)no flags at all to be flown,
b)or both UJ and Tricolour
c) or something neutral like the EU flag (not neutral if you're a Tory I suppose but as there are practically no Tories in the Six Counties, who cares about them).
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una_discamus81p·
"Others have been trying to ensure the negative image of loyalists is maintained."
- I don't think any help is needed to portray negative images of loyalists, Billy. Loyalists manage to do that all by themselves.
example- http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-nati...
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corgie102p·
Hutchinson if the loyalists you are supporting act like scum of the earth then do not be too surprised if the wider community including fine decent unionist people treat them like trash!
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ArthurM197p
Yes - in days of old on the old buses you would "hop" on the back to sneak on for a free ride. We used to all them bus - hoppers. There you have it Billy the Bus - hopper. Different buses - same idea.
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northBelfast105p·
Did not expect the backlash. This out of all the crap from bill shows how far behind the game he and loyalists really are. SF do nothing without looking at very angle and possibility. They knew just what they where doing and what the result would be.
Did bill have a cunning plan to get the flag back?
unionist working class people have been used, abused and neglected for 50 years by the likes of bill, the dup,UUP, unionist murder gangs. Same old crap, the taigs have it all. Even now inn the middle of this latest mess we get the same rubbish from bill.
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northBelfast105p·
Don't forget billy you and the pup initially supported the flag on certain days only.
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una_discamus81p·
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-nati...
here's a nice example of loyalism.
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twoloaded-56p·
What an absolute *******, he represents, the scum of the earth. Go away and leave the the ordinary people alone you parasite
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sam_mildanach99p·
Drinking in the streets, shouting profanities at everyone, taking off your shirt and dancing on top of police vehicles, saying something stupid and uneducated every time you speak, mindlessly destroying property, thinking you are better than you are and being a poor example for children by doing all of the above and not thinking there is anything wrong with it.
If Loyalists don't want to be treated like white trash then they shouldn't behave like white trash.
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ReiverChieftain42p·
That working class Prods have been slyly demonised; their culture marginalised and their communities systematically degraded, is self evident. This process of cultural emasculation has been going on since the GFA was passed. Visitors to NI continually complain that they never hear the PUP side of the story. Even on the cultural side they protest that it is almost impossible to buy Prod/Orange folk music whereas the shops are full of Rebel music. One lady from Toronto with ancestors from the Shankill even asked me why Prod music had been banned. Yes, Im afraid Billy's got a point, he just doesnt express it very well and ends up becoming an easy target for the Green Jihadi snipers who regularly patrol this Forum.
I will not be accused of using that term "WT", but must admit a smile came to my face. Actually the proper term (and most appropriate) is "Trailer Trash." White Trash is usually reserved for the racist rednecks of the southern United States. Trailer Trash is more general and can be applied to almost any situation.
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TheSpelegraph78p·
"I think Sinn Fein rue the day they took the flag down, but they won't admit it. They didn't expect the backlash."
Quite the reverse, Sinn Fein knew exactly what they were doing and precisely how the half-wit Loyalists would react. If anything, this may be going even better than they had hoped for!
Imagine Loyalists with brains, I know it´s difficult, but try; they would have welcomed (or pretended to welcome) the decision to bring Belfast into line with the rest of the UK by flying the flag on designated days.
Then, instead of flag protests, they would have had massive parties on the designated days.
The next move, try to have some special Northern Ireland only designated days, the Twelfth etc, even St Patrick´s Day!
Perhaps then, Sinn Fein would have rued the day ...
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draculastongue101p·
I'm not a loyalist, or a nationalist, so all I want is a quiet life. Maybe flying a much bigger flag is the answer on the designated days. The bigger flag could be equal in area to the combined flag area/days that it used to be flown. It may not be up as often as it was, but just look at the size of it - we've won!
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BelfastUnionist96p·
Working class Loyalists are the one's who suffer most when the PUP organises these protests. We don't need a return to the stupidity of last year.
Remember the DUP and UUP have both agreed to designated days in other councils - they only created a fuss over this for political advantage, and the fact that Loyalists have been DUPed into dancing to their tune is disappointing. No more riots - remember how bad it got last year - http://bit.ly/1exw6Jl
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upload105p·
Perhaps if they had treated the flegaholics same way they treat alcoholics, sort of sssslowly wean them of it. Like fly their flag every other day for the first quarter, then twice a week for the second quarter, once a week the third quarter then on designated days only. This way the sudden change would have had less of an impact on their uda/uff/uvf bird-brains.
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boland100p·
Billy I expected so much of you many years ago. I thought people like you were going to change Loyalism. But I suppose I should have learned lessons...or remembered them.....of previous progressive Loyalists in the 70's who were coming from a UVF background. They quickly revert to type.
March with Nationalists and Republicans to demand a better society. For an end to the assault on the working class. For better education prospects for all of our children. For an improved health service rather than a run down one. For an end to the cosy charade that is Stormont.. There really is more to unite us.
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kpj40295p·
Shabbat Shalom. At the risk of being off topic, allow me to offer a prayer for the second day of Hanukkah and the lighting of the second candle. Baruch atah Adonai, Eloheinu Melech Ha-Olam, asher kiddeshanu b’mitzvotav, vitzivanu, lehadlik ner shel Hanukkah. Blessed are You, Lord our G*d, Ruler of the universe, who has sanctified us with Your commandments, and has commanded us to kindle the lights of Hanukkah.
Baruch atah Adonai, Eloheinu Melech Ha-Olam, she-asah nissim la-avotaynu bayamim ha-hem bazman hazeh. Blessed are you, Lord our G*d, Ruler of the universe, who brought miracles for our fathers in days of old, at this season.
And to all the wee ones, I wish you all spin Gimmel.
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paddy_trevors96p·
Billy trash goes in the Bin. get the message? pass it on to your cohorts.
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non_nom95p·
"There are social problems in working-class communities and until they try to deal with creating jobs and tackling educational underachievement we have a problem."
There was a lone voice in the last Assembly term who championed the cause of better education for loyalist communities. Her name was Dawn Purvis, and her Loyalist constituents showed their appreciation by not bothering to vote her back for another term.
Speaks volumes, eh?
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paddy_trevors96p·
I see in the news that the great oc? of the loyalists the infamous "mo Courtney! has been found guilty of head-butting a women at a social club in a row over drugs.must have been Viagra! I think a lot of loyalists are shooting
blanks these days.
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paddy_trevors96p·
Billy go back under that slimy stone you just crawled from.
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Dulally102p·
Yet more deluded nonsense from Billy.
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benmadigan74p·
Northern Ireland should act in its own best interests, not indulge its obsessions
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